George Ruiz
33 posts
Jun 16, 2005
11:49 PM
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Hi Al
Its hard enough to convince guys to fly and give other roller fancier's a chance to see thier birds in competitions
if the rules were to change (depth) our fun of competing might just be over
george
Last Edited by George Ruiz on Jun 16, 2005 11:53 PM
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motherlodelofts
79 posts
Jun 17, 2005
6:33 AM
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Al I think it's fine , too many cry about not getting scored as it is.
Myself I won't fly a bird that isn't capable of at least 20 - 25 in the team, now if I am scraping for birds of coarse I'll grab 10 footers if I have them.
I like birds that when the kit breaks there is good seperation between the kit and the birds that rolled.
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Slobberknocker
7 posts
Jun 17, 2005
1:49 PM
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I have always heard 30 foot is a good depth for competition.
Bob
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motherlodelofts
82 posts
Jun 17, 2005
2:45 PM
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Bob if you can get "any" full kit where the birds are averaging 30 ft with SPEED and QAULITY it is quite a feat.
I'll get deeper here and there (some much deeper) but I fly them in secondary teams, generally it is a stability issue .
Generally once the deeper than average ones get a handle on things and shorten it up into the 30 ft plus or minus range they are great birds. Once they shorten up the qaulity and speed also improves.
Those that don't tend to shorten it up generally end up dead or out fliers over time. That is what I see here anyway. just my opinion
Scott
Last Edited by motherlodelofts on Jun 17, 2005 6:07 PM
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birdman
25 posts
Jun 17, 2005
6:25 PM
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Al, I agree with George. If you increase the minimum depth requirement then there may be a decrease in those willing to compete. Personally a 10' roller is fine with me as long as it has velocity and style (quality) and works well with the kit. If you can count the revolutions of the roll or if it rolls with poor style or has other faults then it should not be scored. I don't think anybody sets their goals on having a kit of quality 10'ers but it seems like a fair MINIMUM. My goal is a kit capable of ripping consistant 30'ers with velocity and style.
Russ
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big al
13 posts
Jun 17, 2005
6:44 PM
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Hey Russ and George
Thanks for the good posts! I never really thought of it in terms of creating a loss in participation but I guess it could? Once the competition gets tougher and the number of participants grow it will probably change anyway.
I also agree that a 10' spinner with great velocity, style, team worker with great kitting is valuable to any team. I however do tend to fly birds deeper than that.----------
Big Al
"High Plains Spinner Loft"
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Richard A.
5 posts
Jun 17, 2005
6:58 PM
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Big Al!! You sure do fly them alot deeper than 10 ft!!!!!!
Last Edited by Richard A. on Jun 17, 2005 6:58 PM
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big al
16 posts
Jun 17, 2005
7:16 PM
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Richard A.
Yeah I do!! So do you brother! :)
I just mean I would not discard this roller if it was exceptional. If it has the right body I could always put it to the right bird and get the depth. Although a short 10' spinner can be valuable I would never put one in a competition kit unless I was short birds. I just prefer the deep uns' as you know!
The problem is do all the competitors who fly rollers at the minimum depth of ten feet fly quality spinning birds with velocity? If we except mediocre birds at this depth do we promote or retard the growth of the sport? ----------
Big Al
"High Plains Spinner Loft"
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