Richard A.
7 posts
Jun 18, 2005
6:42 PM
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What are some causes for Various diseases in the average pigeon loft?
Inputs on such a subject can really help the novice breeders.
Richard
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J_Star
11 posts
Jun 18, 2005
7:09 PM
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Richard,
Moister and wetness in the loft is the number one killer and sickness. The second is mice in the loft. Always keep the loft dry and mice free. Keep the loft clean and scrape the dropping every so often if you are not using 1X2 wire floor. If you keep those hints in mind at all times, you will enjoy your birds for along time sickness free. Good Luck...
Jay
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fhtfire
154 posts
Jun 18, 2005
8:24 PM
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Another thing is over crowding..if you have to many birds..they are going to get sick. Everyone thinks that they can just add one more pair...so do not over crowd. Here is an example of a maximum...I have a loft that is 6'1"tall, 4.5'wide and 8' long and I can have up to 12 pair of breeders and that is it...any more I would be pushing the limit.
The other thing is fresh water...give them fresh water every day. Give the birds plenty of sunlight too...
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Alohazona
17 posts
Jun 19, 2005
12:39 AM
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Aloha,Good posts guys,the only other thing that comes to mind is bringing in new birds.Even thou you 4 and 1 them,quarrantine them,maybe throw a cull in there before moving them to the main loft,the mild or major disease they are carrying,might be a different strain and can take them out fast,stressed hens seem to be most at risk,thats just my experience.Keeping the numbers low and not bringing in new birds is the key,vaccinating has its merits.Aloha,Todd
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motherlodelofts
85 posts
Jun 19, 2005
7:53 AM
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The biggest problem for new guys s bringing birds from here and there, most of them end up with problems due to this.
Last Edited by motherlodelofts on Jun 19, 2005 7:53 AM
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Richard A.
8 posts
Jun 19, 2005
10:57 AM
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This is all true.
Also do not leave old pigeon food laying around on the ground. this can cause Canker.
The danger in having mice get into your loft, is that they will urinate on the feed, your birds will eat it and before you know it your birds end up with Parityphoid. Then you real troubles begin. Keep your loft either up off of the ground or at least with a wooden floor and sealed tight so that no varmits can get into the loft.
Also do not use sand on the bottom of the loft. The birds will eat it as a natural grit, and if you get a sickness in the loft, as dropping are eaten, the sickness will spread rapidly.
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
21 posts
Jun 19, 2005
3:04 PM
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I believe most of the "causes" are pretty much covered.
But more important than the cause are two things--
Paying Attention
Taking Action.
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Alan Bliven
183 posts
Jun 19, 2005
7:38 PM
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The bottom line in all of animal husbandry and even in humans is to avoid stress. Avoiding undue stress on the animal's mind and body will keep them healthy. Get to know your birds and what stresses them and then avoid it and they will stay healthy. All of the reasons mentioned in the above posts cause stress and stress in turn opens up the birds to problems.
No one has mentioned that keeping the water's pH on the acidic side with the use of Acid Cider Vinegar will help prevent some problems from arising.
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Alan
Last Edited by Alan Bliven on Jun 19, 2005 7:42 PM
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Velo99
34 posts
Jul 04, 2005
8:59 AM
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I as read these posts I started looking for signs of mice. At first I didn`t see any, all I started seeing their droppings I made sure to sweep and take out the feed every night. I was till seeing their sign. I was thinkinh of trapping or poisoning. I did`nt want to poison because of my dog. Most traps are out of the question. I was rooting around in the garage,and found some of the trays that bedding plants come in. I flipped it over and placed a trap under it. Triggerd it. It cleared the top of the tray.
That night I baited with pnut butter and set three traps under it. Next morning two dead mice. No dead birds. Good deal.
I have been at this for four days now and I should be thinning out the family. V99-9, Mice-2.
(A couple got away :( )
This morning I got energetic,scraped,disinfected and PAINTED the inside of my kit box. I painted the box a beige doeskin kinda color. I thought it would be soothing for the birds. I also cut a 12 x 24 opening in the floor and covered it with wire to increase the air flow. I have`nt had any sign of disease and think I have the problem well in hand.
Thanks for the info guys.
YITS
v99
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Alan Bliven
196 posts
Jul 05, 2005
3:19 PM
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If you are worried about the dogs eating the dead poisoned mice... no fear, the pesticides have no second kill. In other words it won't harm another animal to eat the dead mice. I was a pest control technician for 10 years.
But there is a danger of animals eating the poison itself.
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Alan
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motherlodelofts
154 posts
Jul 05, 2005
4:49 PM
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Alan that is good info , does this inclde the bar baits ? I worry about my cats eating poisoned mice.
Scott
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