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GOLD MEMBER
389 posts
Mar 07, 2009
9:24 PM
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Looks like he's constipated :) ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Tony...
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STUDENT 2 THE GAME
79 posts
Mar 07, 2009
9:27 PM
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IMAO
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Scott
1805 posts
Mar 08, 2009
8:49 AM
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Here is something to kick aroud , if you chose your stock on expression and type only you would end up with garbage in a very short time.
Yet when I'm looking at a bird for potential stock I'm looking hard at the expression , also if a bird is flown hard for over 2 years and rolls hard without any problems such as non kitting and or bumping you can pretty well count on that bird having decent expression because those that don't have long fallen apart.
Expresion is nothing more than trying to get a read on the charactor, the charactor of the bird shows it self as soon as it hits the sky for the first time on through it's career.
The birds that are of exceptionial charactor are those that have little or no problem coming into the roll, kit like glue,cut off the roll when un safe ect ect,such birds always have decent expression.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Mar 08, 2009 8:51 AM
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Scott
1806 posts
Mar 08, 2009
8:54 AM
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Andrew , what the hell is that ?
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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toronto15
65 posts
Mar 08, 2009
10:10 AM
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Nice birds Harrison. You posted a picture a while back with a pair of reds. I really like the expression on that cockbird,looks like its chomping at the bit to tear up the sky.Glen.
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harrison
343 posts
Mar 08, 2009
10:20 AM
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My good exspreshion birds
to me this pigeon looks like its rearing to go.
And please believe me she can.
the red check cock is 10 years old.
I think these pigeons look realy happy to be were they are.
I hate pigeons that look down and worn out.
Thank you. yours in roll harrison uk hull.
Last Edited by on Mar 08, 2009 10:31 AM
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harrison
346 posts
Mar 08, 2009
10:34 AM
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this pair of oddsides look like they smile at me sometimes.lol harrison
Last Edited by on Mar 08, 2009 11:49 AM
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toronto15
67 posts
Mar 08, 2009
10:38 AM
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Our birds know when there well taken care of and loved and express it.Glen.Good on ya Harrison.
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harrison
349 posts
Mar 08, 2009
10:50 AM
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Thank you Glen.
I hate to see pigeons that dont look happy (IT MAKES ME SAD) Also my birds are not what you call TAME but comfortable in there self. I hate going into a shed and pigeons are taking your head off and smashing into walls ect..ect...
I always pick my young up so that they no I am not a preditor. Thanks harrison uk hull
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kopetsa
61 posts
Mar 08, 2009
1:38 PM
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Scott that makes you look stupid to ask that even. What does it look like to you? a dog?? I'm kind of sick and tired of you saying to people "there are only a few birds on this site that have right type." or whatever the hell you say along those lines. Well I have seen your birds??? HAHAHAHA they aren't perfect by any means. And I'm KNOW a lot of people would agree. You think your birds are pretty much perfect, but until you actually WIN the WC, keep your mouth shut about other people's birds!
Last Edited by on Mar 08, 2009 1:42 PM
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Scott
1808 posts
Mar 08, 2009
1:44 PM
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Andrew,it was a simple quesion, other than being a pigeon I honestly don't know what that is, my best guess is some sort of Show Roller , what is it and where did you get it ?
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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kopetsa
62 posts
Mar 08, 2009
1:47 PM
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if you think that's a show roller.. whoa some roller man you are. now put up some of your birds and stop running others down.
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roller_boi
38 posts
Mar 08, 2009
1:53 PM
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i have no idea how to make this smaller
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fireballroller_boi
Last Edited by on Mar 08, 2009 1:54 PM
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Scott
1809 posts
Mar 08, 2009
1:54 PM
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Lets see a better picture of it Andrew.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Scott
1810 posts
Mar 08, 2009
2:07 PM
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Boy, you come in here last year with some county fair birds and a non flyer and now you want to bump heads,are you frigging goofy or what ?
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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kopetsa
63 posts
Mar 08, 2009
2:10 PM
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county fair birds..? hmm nope not wanting to bump heads, its just along with me there are many people on here that are sick of you and your ways.
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Scott
1811 posts
Mar 08, 2009
2:12 PM
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Your weakest is the top one, your strongest is the last one, I really like that Red Mottle !
Last Edited by on Mar 08, 2009 2:22 PM
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Scott
1812 posts
Mar 08, 2009
2:17 PM
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Andrew,check that red mottle out, there is no question what that is, why is that ?
Sure I get under some peoples skin, but I will never lie to you or bullshit you.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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toronto15
71 posts
Mar 08, 2009
2:42 PM
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Andrew,constructive(instuctive)criticism,is a big part of life.It not easy at times,but take it with a grain of salt.Its good for the birds and us.Listen to what the top flyers have to say and use what you thinks best. If you suceed right away,great. If you don,t,no problem,you can always go back to the drawing board.
I,ll borrow this from Donnie,if he doesn,t mind.
Hey Kopesta nice pigeon and I want to wish you the best of luck with that bird.Glen.
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
3168 posts
Mar 08, 2009
3:57 PM
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Andrew, it don't mean nothin...let it go...
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Scott
1815 posts
Mar 08, 2009
4:11 PM
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Roller Boi ,I was wrong ,it is that Lavander that is the weakest bird expression wise,but not bad.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Mar 08, 2009 5:32 PM
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toughrollers
48 posts
Mar 08, 2009
4:19 PM
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nice bird kopetsa
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Scott
1818 posts
Mar 08, 2009
5:33 PM
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AK , need a better picture
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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roller_boi
39 posts
Mar 08, 2009
7:36 PM
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lol thanks scott for the opinion
yeah the lavender doesnt have much expression in that pic
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fireballroller_boi
Last Edited by on Mar 08, 2009 7:36 PM
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Scott
1819 posts
Mar 09, 2009
6:28 AM
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Still no go but, gotta see a clear picture of the head and eye's , it is just like getting a read on a dog on what his temperment is.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Scott
1821 posts
Mar 09, 2009
7:30 AM
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Need a few more
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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harrison
363 posts
Mar 09, 2009
10:37 AM
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To Scott.
What about this pair, do they look good for each other?
Thank you harrison uk.
Last Edited by on Mar 09, 2009 10:38 AM
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harrison
364 posts
Mar 09, 2009
10:48 AM
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And this pair? thanx scott.
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harrison
366 posts
Mar 09, 2009
11:01 AM
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And last but no means worst.
if you could take time to look at these birds and tell me what you see that would be much respeckted.
Good look for 09. yours in roll harrison. uk, city of hull
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Scott
1823 posts
Mar 09, 2009
11:53 AM
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Harrison, keep in mind that we are looking at "picture's" and that the birds behavior from the time that it hits the kitbox on through maturity plays in huge also on what we do in the stock loft.
Looking at the expression of these birds in a picture can be very dicy to say the least.
From what I see from the expression is they all look about medium in strength, which you will find in many producers and fine performing birds.
Strong expression needs a heavy dose of the roll gene,strong expression and loads of roll gets harder to realize as the strength over rides to roll.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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harrison
371 posts
Mar 09, 2009
12:04 PM
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thank you scott.
These are my faves
I will try some more at random pick.
do you get the same picture in these birds?
thank you scott.
yes they are fine performers, and also this line of birds produce me good young.
every one of these birds come from the same familey.
take care mate, harrison uk
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1097 posts
Jun 28, 2009
4:10 PM
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Addressing the character portion of this post, and possibly the expression. All things being equal and speaking about cock's which would you prefer of these two choices. A dominate slightly aggressive bird or a calm could be mistaken for a hen bird. I'm not talking about size but demeanor. O.K., I have two brothers but not nest mates. One beats up the hen, drives her even to the point of stomping on his own young and or breaking his own egg. But, he is one of my best in the air. Kits tight, rolls medium but with good form and makes your heart skip a beat every once in awhile when he goes that little bit extra. The other is slightly deeper, kits just as good but walks softly during breeding season, both produce good birds. The easy keeper will even feed three consistently. Which bird would you base a line on and are these characteristics passed on to the next generation?
I know someone will ask why I fly my breeders and the answer is. There are only three birds in my loft that are considered breeders. Everyone else are fosters with the chance of producing. Everybird in my loft and kit box's are from the first two including a son that is the third breeder or the fosters which are also from the first two. Everyone old or young flys until I just can't justify taking a risk with them. So far, that is one cock.
Thanks, Thom
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RodSD
278 posts
Jun 28, 2009
11:31 PM
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I think the way the bird shows its expression shows its character. Make sense? The bird should looks confident, able to do the job, looks in control. Then you might say that has a champion character. (Note: I am just guessing!)
A flighty bird might be taken as having weak character for example.
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