George R.
326 posts
Mar 10, 2008
7:49 PM
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Check out these pure muff Birmingham Rollers.
Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2008 8:06 PM
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George R.
327 posts
Mar 10, 2008
7:49 PM
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heres another one
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gabe454
512 posts
Mar 10, 2008
7:50 PM
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Those look like tumblers are they your birds george
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2008 7:51 PM
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155
255 posts
Mar 10, 2008
7:51 PM
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LOL...NICE BIRD
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sippi
117 posts
Mar 10, 2008
7:53 PM
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The black pied bird looks like some of my Galati's except they are built better for the roll.
Sippi
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gabe454
513 posts
Mar 10, 2008
7:56 PM
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Man those aint no rollers he knows that
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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George R.
328 posts
Mar 10, 2008
7:57 PM
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The hen is getting ready to Lay a Egg ... for sure Champions offspring , you can tell by the color and where they came from(breeder).
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PR_rollers
661 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:03 PM
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George you want Pensom to turn over in his grave,,lol calling those pure Pensom. LMAO you says you can tell by the color ,you sick George
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Ralph....
Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2008 8:05 PM
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George R.
329 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:06 PM
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Your Right Ralph I changed it LOL
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George R.
330 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:09 PM
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No Gabe I just thought they were pretty and I wanted everyone to see what Im Flying in the World Cup this year.,..
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gabe454
515 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:12 PM
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Post like this are not knowledgeable to be honest with you.
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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George R.
331 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:13 PM
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Question... If I fly one or two of these in a Kit and win my region for the World Cup . Would I be able to say that I won with Muffs even though there was only 2 in the Kit ????
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155
256 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:15 PM
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HERE WE GO LOLLLLLLL....
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PR_rollers
662 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:16 PM
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I hear you 155,,its just getting started lol
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Ralph....
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gabe454
518 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:16 PM
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sup 155 que onda camarada
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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155
257 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:22 PM
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SUP GABE454
JUST KICKING IT WITH ME KIDS. SO HOWS YOUR BIRD DOING??
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gabe454
520 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:24 PM
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Thier doing good bro thanks for asking got hit by 3 bops today at the same time hommie lost one youngster just a bad day thier were performing good but they got me today
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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155
258 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:28 PM
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YEA I LOST 2 BIRDS ON SUNDAY AND I GOT HIT TODAY TOO
BUT HE DID NOT GET ANYTHINK TODAY
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gabe454
523 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:42 PM
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good bro they still havent left here
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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Hector Coya
25 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:48 PM
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Hector Coya
26 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:48 PM
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George R.
335 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:49 PM
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Hey Hector
Remember Donut ?? Black White Flight Badge , I lend her to Pual and never got her Back..
Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2008 8:51 PM
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gabe454
524 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:49 PM
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Know those are some real muffed rollers
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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jerries loft
126 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:51 PM
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Those are some nice Muffs there hector,how do they roll.
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Jerries Loft
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155
259 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:51 PM
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WHAT BLOOD LINE ARE THEM BIRDS?
EVILLOFT'S
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Scott
214 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:51 PM
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(Question... If I fly one or two of these in a Kit and win my region for the World Cup . Would I be able to say that I won with Muffs even though there was only 2 in the Kit ???? )
Now that hit a funny bone George ,here's one that has allways have be baffled, what if twenty guys took birds from a guy named say, Ike with a wife named Tina.
And all of them crossed other families onto them for reasons only known to them,would they still be called Ike & Tina's birds ?
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2008 8:53 PM
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George R.
337 posts
Mar 10, 2008
8:56 PM
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Scott
I really have heard guys say that they flew this and that and did good BUT there was only 1 maybe two of those Funny Birds in the whole Kit.
And no they would not be Ike and Tinas birds anymore they would be Ikes and Mikes Birds LOL
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nicksiders
2613 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:02 PM
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Reminds me what the color breeders are doing. They put a couple of color birds in thier kit and if the kit does well they tell us that the color birds are kicking ass.
Same senerio.
Nick Siders
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nicksiders
2614 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:05 PM
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Birmingham Rollers are said to be "lightly feathered" describing the muff birds that occurr. Some of the birds I am seeing at times are way more than "lightly feathered" muffs.
Nick Siders
Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2008 9:07 PM
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Hector Coya
28 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:09 PM
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Those muff come from the late Joe Angulo who unfortunatly took his own life, winner of the California Classic 1995 i think ,cant remember.they go back to his Jaconnett stuff.Hector Coya
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Scott
215 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:13 PM
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I've seen some Smiths that were sweet with faily heavy muffs, I have also seen some cross Wests for heavy Muffs. I have always been told that if they have feathers on the back of thier hocks they are crossed ,nice side view of that chker.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2008 9:16 PM
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Drama Side
108 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:15 PM
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Nicksiders what you trying to say color birds don't roll. You must don't know John Jones.
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George R.
339 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:16 PM
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Scott
You think one day we might see a Crested Muff frill back Roller ?
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Scott
216 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:22 PM
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You can bet someone trying to breed them George, inbreed the hell out of a color bird and see what pops up, then inbreed a Birmingham.
That George is the difference between a true breed and something else.
That something else can't hold up or breed true without the true breed to bury the mutt, pretty basic stuff actualy
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Hector Coya
29 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:29 PM
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Ive got a pure jerry Higgins bird with the tinyest beak you will ever see,it looks like a tumler of some kind,now is it a pure Bermingham roller?
just becouse it comes from a reputable breeder is it ok to look diferent?
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Hector Coya
31 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:38 PM
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Scott ,i dont cear what they put in that Checker family,but ill tell you they roll,its out of the same pair that produced a bird George use to have he called it the donut,if they roll like she did,ill keep breeding them nomatter what they put in to them,maybe it helped.
Hector Coya
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George R.
340 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:38 PM
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Hector
Im just courious does the Little beak Bird have Jerry's band on it??
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Hector Coya
33 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:41 PM
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No it was bred by Don Mccully from riverside.
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Scott
219 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:43 PM
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What the heck does a short beak have to do with anything ? are you useing a Higgins bird with a short beak to justify all of these wierd projects ?
And of all families as that is a 100 0/0 to the bone bred for performance family.
Hector, if thats what you want to do and that is what you enjoy, go for it, you don't have to justify it with anything other than "that is what I enjoy doing!! )
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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George R.
342 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:43 PM
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So theres really no way of knowing for sure if it's a Jerry Higgins Bird.
was it Bred in a open loft ?
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Hector Coya
34 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:47 PM
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Scott dont get uptight,you must have some short beat tumbler looking birds too.
i also have a bird from a Norm reed line that has a short beak,bringing in the short beak had to come from something els didnt it?or is it too much inbreeding.Hector
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Hector Coya
35 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:52 PM
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Scott,Lets just all enjoy our bird's,lets leave it at that,your a good guy,i have alot of respect for you ,i dont want to get you going,this is a silly argument ,good night. Hector Coya
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Scott
220 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:53 PM
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Actualy no I don't have any Hector, but I know what you are talking about as I have seen them in some of the old 313 stuff.
It isn't due to inbreeding unless you have one and start inbreeding a line around it where you get more and more.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Scott
221 posts
Mar 10, 2008
9:55 PM
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Hector , I think the same of you, there is nothing going wrong here.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Electric-man
1264 posts
Mar 10, 2008
10:04 PM
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Val
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elopez
758 posts
Mar 10, 2008
10:42 PM
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Nice looker Val.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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elopez
759 posts
Mar 10, 2008
10:43 PM
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George,
You’re crazy in trying to make a point a bit exaggerated though...lol
Nice color on those tumblers...lol
Now all you need is a crest.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2008 10:48 PM
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elopez
760 posts
Mar 10, 2008
10:44 PM
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I know you've been at Hector's house and seen his Crest spin. What did you think?
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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Mongrel Lofts
541 posts
Mar 10, 2008
11:40 PM
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George,
you can fly a kit of English trumpeters with two fan tails in the kit. If they out roll all the other kits in the WC your kit of pigeons will win.. No rules that you have to fly Birmingham rollers in the WC or NBRC.. Rare colored rollers are proof of that.. What are those saddle mutts anyway?? LOL KGB
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Ballrollers
1103 posts
Mar 11, 2008
9:06 AM
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Guys
You are right that Scott is a good guy. He only wants us all to enjoy our birds.
It would be a drab world without colors in it, if all the houses looked the same, if all of us thought beauty had to be 5'2" 36-22-36 and blond. The fact is we all enjoy things a little differently.
Cars are not all the same colors, cars come with all kinds of different packages and options. Life is full of options. Take our little feathered friends, for instance. Many years ago, men were playing and crossbreeding pigeons to enhance their rolling ability. They used whatever they could get their hands on at the time. Several breeds of "tumblers" were used in the mix. Even today, if we inbreed long enough, we may get a few "throwbacks" that resemble more tumblers than rollers. There were several different breeds used in the early development of the bird , we now call the Birmingham Roller. The original Birminghams are known to have had crested and muffed varieties....and that's a fact.
Today, we are still developing our birds. The breed is not set in stone, in my opinion, the breed is still exploring its genetic differences. We are finding more and more unique traits , we enjoy breeding for. Performance is still the number one trait we breed for, and that performance trait is the reason , we fly competitions.
KGB is 100% right, when he states the fly's are not just for a specific breed of pigeon. The fly's are open to any pigeon that can "SPIN" for at least 10 feet.
The interesting diversity of colors and feather adornments, found within the roller pigeon, can keep us striving for individual goals forever. Men who try to lock us in to " their perception" of what a roller pigeon should look like, do little to promote the roller fancy. This forum is dedicated to men who share their optimism for enjoyment of the roller fancy.
YITS,
Cliff
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