PR_rollers
701 posts
Mar 17, 2008
9:16 PM
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Gomez you in trouble now pic is way too big ..detention for you ,,lol.. nice muff do they fight hawk too..
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Ralph....
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ezeedad
389 posts
Mar 17, 2008
9:39 PM
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I resized them...I didn't mean to post so big.. I was having trouble with photobucket
Sorry, I resized them using a different program.. still too big
Last Edited by on Mar 17, 2008 9:41 PM
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Edgar
111 posts
Mar 17, 2008
9:56 PM
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nice looking muffs Mr gomes i got a dun white muffs from the show thank you for donating it and no im not going to fly it are these birds related to him.edgar
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ezeedad
392 posts
Mar 17, 2008
10:39 PM
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Hey Edgar,
Yes the one you got is a full brother of about 3 or 4 of these.. Gomez
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elopez
825 posts
Mar 17, 2008
10:45 PM
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Hey Paul,
Nice looking muffs.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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bigwilly
470 posts
Mar 17, 2008
10:49 PM
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Nice Paul real nice
Last Edited by on Mar 17, 2008 10:51 PM
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WaTtS UpP
448 posts
Mar 17, 2008
10:50 PM
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whats up mero cholo E whats going down homeboy hows it going out there for you
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Watts uppp homeboy
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bigwilly
471 posts
Mar 17, 2008
10:52 PM
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Hey Paul what do you have up your sleeve? LOl
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ezeedad
393 posts
Mar 18, 2008
7:37 PM
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Big Will,
You KNOW what I have up my sleeve...!! I'm gonna be making real muff rollers... Spinners...!!
Paul
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George R.
406 posts
Mar 18, 2008
7:39 PM
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Paul
What is the BACKGROUND on you Muffs?
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George R.
408 posts
Mar 18, 2008
7:55 PM
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West of englands
Last Edited by on Mar 18, 2008 8:25 PM
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Ontarioflyer
66 posts
Mar 18, 2008
8:24 PM
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Hey paul nice looking muffs.Hers my email birds1965@msn.com. looking forward to here from you.
Terry
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ezeedad
394 posts
Mar 18, 2008
9:31 PM
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George... Pure Birmingham Roller
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RXR Loft
196 posts
Mar 18, 2008
9:38 PM
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Paul, those are very nice... I like the red checks...
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RxR Loft
Roll'em if you got'em...
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elopez
842 posts
Mar 18, 2008
9:42 PM
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What up big Nick. Sorry I missed a few of your calls. You are usually callling when I coaching my sons baseball team. Are your new pairs down?
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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WaTtS UpP
450 posts
Mar 18, 2008
9:44 PM
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some of them im throwing squabs out the breeder a little by little homeboy whats up with you how are you
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Watts uppp homeboy
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Alohazona
409 posts
Mar 18, 2008
11:06 PM
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Paul,
As always I admire your stock,not only do they exude health,but they are very well put together!
Paul,could you tell me more of their performance,depth,quality-style,frequency,etc....Aloha,Todd
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BLUETT1983
40 posts
Mar 19, 2008
12:42 AM
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Nice......
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Dominique Bluett's Birmingham Roller Loft"
O8 NBRC.....
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elopez
844 posts
Mar 19, 2008
12:53 AM
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I'm alright fought the urge to fly and have held them in. You drawing up your loft plans yet?
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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ezeedad
395 posts
Mar 19, 2008
6:46 AM
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Mahalo Todd,
I have made my muffs from the fastest birds in my family.
First, the 119 birds that the original muff gene(s) came from .. a couple of the originals spun blood in their eyes..
from real velocity..
Then I later rebuilt the family adding 2 sons and a daughter of my 591 hen.. one of my best spinners and producers ever.. I saw her shrink in the roll at times..
I haven't flown lately...due to my schedule and BOP problem, but I have used the interlude to make a sizable nucleus.. and I will be able to put them up soon with out fear of losing my project. I do see some of them flip in the cage tho...lol...
Take Care my friend,
Paul
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rollerman132
259 posts
Mar 19, 2008
10:57 AM
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Are you trolling Paul lmao? You know how these guys get with those giant muff birds.
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ezeedad
396 posts
Mar 19, 2008
7:03 PM
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Rollerman,
No, I'm not really trolling.. I just want people to see something of what I've been doing. I heard that there were a lot of people who thought I had packed up the tents and rode my camels off into the sunset.
Gomez
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WaTtS UpP
451 posts
Mar 19, 2008
7:31 PM
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im going to build a couple of indivituals for the fosters and im going to use the open loft for the new birds so i could bread those suckers faster i got babies now from the birds from the auction that pair with the 272 line so whats up E how many birds do you have now
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Watts uppp homeboy
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elopez
879 posts
Mar 28, 2008
1:01 AM
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Hey Paul,
I sure would like to see these birds in action. Hopefully I'll be lucky enough to see them do what they do best.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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Mount Airy Lofts
596 posts
Mar 28, 2008
11:33 AM
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Holly mother of feathers? First time I've seen a family with that long of feathered foot. In a good way that is. The size of those birds look very small and compact. Can't say the same about the feathers on their feet ;)
Nice group of birds. Hope they do you well for you in the air.
Thanks for sharing... it was interesting,
Thor
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It's all about the friends we make :)
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gotspin7
1291 posts
Mar 28, 2008
11:50 AM
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Paul nice ones
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Sal Ortiz
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George R.
433 posts
Mar 28, 2008
12:53 PM
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I cant agree on this one with you guys , these Birds look like they are crossed. Paul says he did not cross them and I believe him but maybe someone crossed them before he got them.
Sometimes I think people are afraid to say what they really think and be politicly correct.
Just my opinion
George
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elopez
881 posts
Mar 28, 2008
2:40 PM
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Well I'm not afraid to say what I think. I meant what I said about liking these birds. Muffs might be too big on some but I personally like muffs. Although I only have on muff breeder that I breed out of two gross legs.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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ezeedad
421 posts
Mar 28, 2008
10:07 PM
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Mount Airy, Sal, Efren,
Thanks... The birds ARE small and very typey.. Strong too.
I have been working on the current strain for about the last ten years, starting with groused legged
birds that had some of the first muffed birds I was breeding in the late 70s and 80s. The original
birds were from a full brother/sister pair that Cornell Norwood had bred and that his brother Elliot was
using. These birds were according to Cornell about as close up to 119 as could be had at the time. I
wanted the 119 blood because Cornell told me that, in his opinion, 119 was where the best speed out of 514
was coming
When they produced the first big muff I expressed an interest in trying to breed muffs from them and
they loaned me the pair that started my first muffs. It turned out that those first muffs were too closely
bred to sustain a strong family. I finally crossed two of them to my hottest clean leg birds, and they rolled
SUPER... But they only had groused legs. I have bred my current muff family out of these groused legged birds.
It has taken me about ten years to breed up my current muff family from the groused ones.
Gomez
Last Edited by on Mar 28, 2008 10:12 PM
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ezeedad
422 posts
Mar 28, 2008
10:36 PM
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George,
You are always trying to undermine the efforts of others.
You sound like one of Ken's cheerleaders...
only you lack the knowledge that Kenny clearly has.
If these muffs of mine had a cross before I got them then it must have been before Cornell Norwood
had the blood, and before Frank Lavin had it, and before Bill Pensom had it... because that is where the
blood came from.
Oh.. I almost forgot.. Why didn't you respond to the post I put under front crest ..Hector's post.. I
show a color bird I had in the California Classic and what was written abiout it.
Gomez
Last Edited by on Mar 28, 2008 10:38 PM
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George R.
436 posts
Mar 28, 2008
10:56 PM
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Paul
You asked for a opinion and I gave it . as far as the bird that you entered in the Cal Classic .. you answered that one yourself , you said the bird would not kit well .. if you dont know why, then what can I say .
I dont sugar coat nothing Paul never been my style but that dont mean we cant be frends.
I always have said I dont have the knowledge of many who consider them selves experts , but I do fly my Birds and enter any Fly I can and thats a lot more then some experts can claim.
I always Fly .. I dont believe in excuses I dont have the time and the right schedule either but some how I still fly and support the Fly's .
Thats just me.
my opinion
George
Last Edited by on Mar 28, 2008 11:31 PM
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elopez
882 posts
Mar 28, 2008
11:58 PM
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Man Paul,
What did you do to the Deadend Kid oops I mean George...lol
He seems to keep making unwanted comments about your birds...
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
Last Edited by on Mar 29, 2008 12:00 AM
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George R.
438 posts
Mar 29, 2008
7:13 AM
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Efren
Paul did not do nothing to me ,I just stated my opinion and it seems like he got upset..
It has happened before with other people. Am I supposed to lie just so people dont get upset ?
Like I said its just my opinion nothing else. I have been called names by others here on this forum but I still did not stoop to anyones level and call them names .
And all that just because I didnt agree with thier opinion.
I dont always agree with Scott and Kenny and Hector but I still consider them friends. and I know that they have a lot of knowledge when It comes to Birds . They never get upset when I dont agree with them.
I will post some pics of some of my Birds and if someone says they they dont like them . NO BIG DEAL I would not get upset its just a opinion , nothing else.
Just my opinion
\ George
Last Edited by on Mar 29, 2008 7:32 AM
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ezeedad
423 posts
Mar 29, 2008
8:56 AM
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Efren,
I don't know why George tries to bring others down...
I have heard that those that do such things are suffering from a low self image so they belittle others
in an effort to feel better about them selves.
But maybe that's not it. Maybe he really thinks what he is saying is right. But when he says these things
about my birds I have to set him straight.
He really doesn't know anything about me.
Gomez
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George R.
444 posts
Mar 29, 2008
9:30 AM
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Paul
Just because I disagree on something with you does not mean I am trying to put you down..
As a teacher I am surprised that you dont know the difference between a opinion and a blatant attack on you personally.
I just stated my opinion nothing else , I dont understand why you took it personal.
Several people believe the Family of Birds that I fly are over cooked but thats OK , they have a right to thier opinion NO BIG DEAL.
stop trying to read between the lines , its just a opinion from a Novice nothing Else .
If you really got hurt by my opinion then I will erase it and apologize to you just let me know.
Its not a Big deal there just Pigeons.
Last Edited by on Mar 29, 2008 9:31 AM
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Mount Airy Lofts
598 posts
Mar 29, 2008
11:46 AM
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I don't think there is any thing wrong with the difference of opinion. Your birds might not float my boat, then that same thing could be said about mine by others. No biggie. Fly what ever makes you happy guys. Personally I like seeing different family of birds. Most might not do it for me on the ground but I can't say the same in the air.
Any one who post some thing in public... well you know how that goes.
Thor
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It's all about the friends we make :)
Last Edited by on Mar 29, 2008 12:11 PM
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elopez
887 posts
Mar 29, 2008
12:06 PM
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Well said Thor.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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ICEMAN710
241 posts
Mar 31, 2008
5:27 AM
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Great looking muffs paul. I gotta get my hands on some of your family!! Those dark checks look sweet, im sure they'll all be doing some damage in the air in the future.
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Gary
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pat66
135 posts
Mar 31, 2008
5:50 AM
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Paul,
Very nice looking birds,look like rippers to me!!!!
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Pat
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CSRA
1488 posts
Apr 05, 2008
1:44 AM
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nice birds Paul good job
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lionel
55 posts
Apr 05, 2008
10:05 AM
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their is a difference in giving opinion and attacking by implying that your giving opinion. we can say that we like or dislike a certain family or strain of birds or we can say we dont... Some individuals attack by giving an opinion that there crosses - they maybe or OR THEY MIGHT NOT BE. If were not sure (why not keep or attacking opinions to ourself).
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Lionel
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Scott
334 posts
Apr 05, 2008
10:56 AM
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Muffs have been in the breed a very long time and I have seen some good ones, of coarse when you make a "project" out of anything you won't go any where other than hit and miss, to many "excuse" birds get buried in for any project,and that means faults.
There are a couple of those that look like they could have the goods if all else is right,I like the looks of the one in the first pic to the far left,some of the others look like they will just be boneheads.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Apr 05, 2008 12:35 PM
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0016
48 posts
Apr 05, 2008
8:24 PM
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Real nice birds Paul!
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ezeedad
446 posts
Apr 06, 2008
11:05 AM
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Steve...0016,
Thanks..!!
Lionel,
I saw it as an attack too... Desguised as an opinion.
Scott,
Since I made the muffs using some of my best spinners, I feel that they should be very good rollers. I have enough of them now so that I can begin to fly them without endangering the project as a whole. I've been working on my family for a long time without crossing, so I feel confident that the birds will hold up.
Gomez
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0016
49 posts
Apr 06, 2008
11:51 AM
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Paul a project with a goal is the begining of a successful projec;a project without a goal is always the begining of a dream. Antonio (0016)
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ezeedad
447 posts
Apr 06, 2008
1:26 PM
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Thanks Antonio,
Your comments and Steves's mean the most to me because you both have used my birds and know what I'm about...
Gomez
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0016
50 posts
Apr 06, 2008
6:02 PM
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Paul do you have any pictures of 640.
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ezeedad
448 posts
Apr 06, 2008
8:27 PM
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Antonio,
Here's one...
and a second
Last Edited by on Apr 06, 2008 8:41 PM
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redchecker16
61 posts
Apr 06, 2008
9:38 PM
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Hello MR.GOMEZ what color would you call #640? Looks very Nice! Small & Typey.you sure no how to make'em.Pick'em too.
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ezeedad
449 posts
Apr 07, 2008
6:23 AM
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Thanks Redchecker,
I'd call him a dun checker. He was such a standout that he HAD to be picked... He chose himself. He was prefect on the ground too. I learned a lot from this bird.
Gomez
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