Edgar
514 posts
Dec 04, 2008
10:05 PM
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yeah Ralp it was tough but i dont blame my parents. They just did'nt know how much them birds ment to me I now know that at least my mother realized that cause since i got my birds again she sees how i dont crave the streets the fast money the drugs i rather be broke in my back yard than rich in a prison yard.
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brudahpete
283 posts
Dec 04, 2008
10:14 PM
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Remember, it's not where you've been.....it's where you're going.
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Shadow
297 posts
Dec 04, 2008
11:05 PM
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Couldn'T possibly pick one,made too many,and lots more to come yet! No doubt,Rollers like Life are a great big learning curve,and ya aint never gonna know it all or half enough,show me the Man who hasn't made mistakes,and I will show you a Man who hasn't lived.
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2066 posts
Dec 05, 2008
8:40 AM
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You right about that Shadow..
There once was a man who never live nor try ,never laugh or cry and when he past away his insurance was deny. ..since he never really live .they claim he never die..
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Ralph
Last Edited by on Dec 05, 2008 7:15 PM
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Longroller
GOLD MEMBER
42 posts
Dec 05, 2008
9:05 AM
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How many of you remember this? "You have never lived, until you have almost died. To those who fight for it, life has a flavor the protected will never know." De Oppresso Liber
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silver tail
650 posts
Dec 05, 2008
9:38 AM
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This roll yes my statement is true I am one of the few in the migratory birds act investigation.
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mario
GOLD MEMBER
273 posts
Dec 05, 2008
7:11 PM
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first mistake ..having too many families of birds ....now that s over
second mistake..buying cheap birds that s over too
Mario
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donnie james
70 posts
Dec 06, 2008
5:40 PM
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once i over feed my birds a little and i had a over fly and 2/3 of them stayed out all night and i got them back the next day all day that that learned me to over feed ..............donny james
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roller alley
174 posts
Aug 22, 2009
11:07 PM
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never think that your wife will watch over the loft,nope,the novelas(soaps) are more important.my son opened the loft at 2years old and my stock birds went bye bye,1 was a blurr check wf cock banded with my # in downey,still waiting for the call fellas,the second was his full sister,she was a buzz saw.damn...only bread them 2 times..too scarred to fly them still.grand son still squeeking and hit a 10ft roll with the hole yesterday woohoo...
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3302 posts
Aug 23, 2009
6:51 AM
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never think that your wife will watch over the loft,nope,the novelas(soaps) are more important.
true that..roller alley that was a good one ,hope you get them birds back..
damn 10ft and still squeaking ,do your family start early if not I be worry ..
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Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
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roller alley
175 posts
Aug 23, 2009
9:44 AM
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PR the only thing that scared me was when the damn BOP almost scared him off.the birds that havent shown me anything before the lock down are at risk to be put on the BOP menu,or at the feed store.thats how the early development came about.no love.have 2 that R safe.the rest either arnt fast enough or the form isnt to parr,or still tumbling.every year life gets a little bit better.
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Spin City USA
244 posts
Aug 23, 2009
9:57 PM
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One of the big mistakes I make is not putting away a potential breeder and letting the bop get it. Now when I see waht I want to see I put them away to breed. I can always correct a mistake but I can never replace the loss. I will never know if a pair is on the right track if I cant see if the babies will produce.
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They gotta Spin to win.....Jay
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J_Star
2108 posts
Aug 24, 2009
5:27 AM
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Roller Alley, that is not true. My wife watch over the birds when I am away or late at work. She feeds them per my instructions. When I build a loft or a kit box, I design it to be rodents and pests proof, and child proof. if you put a latch high enough or double latch so a child can not open the door would have saved your breeders.
Jay
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Windjammer Loft
900 posts
Aug 24, 2009
8:48 AM
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Along with what others have mentioned. I don't think this was my worse mistake but,it was a mistake anyway. At the time I didn't take the time to plan and design my loft to what my needs were going to be. I kept adding to it.. So,good planning and design will eliminate alot of future problems...
Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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Square
762 posts
Aug 24, 2009
12:27 PM
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Constantly giving my rollers to a young kid, Knowing his father has a "stering wheel" in his back. Meaning the father will spend money to buy my birds but would much rather use his son to getum for free...Fustrating!!!
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"Home of the Ghost Town Roller"
K.C.R.C
Last Edited by on Aug 24, 2009 2:16 PM
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harrison
1215 posts
Aug 24, 2009
1:18 PM
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Well here we go.LOL.
It has got to be When I got talking to a naibour and he got on to saying that he use to keep Birmingham Rollers and had taken a likeing to mine.
I said that there was a loft for sale that I could get get him cheap.
So I got him the shed and gave him a few youngsters FREE.
He started off quiet well and we had them flying out within a week.
I sorted througth my young bird kit and ended up giving him almost half of them duethem not rolling as good as the other half.
This is were it started getting silly.
I told him to keep the birds to a strict feed diet that I had set out for him and he just didnt listen.
He would feed the birds then let them out,
No disrespect to anyone but come on,
This guy said he new his stuff.
So there we have 15 birds flying back and forth from his to my house all day long.
I couldnt let my birds out and still he wouldnt listen.
I NO,I NO,I NO,
Is all he would say but day after day the birds would be doing this(HIS FAULT OF COURSE)
Then the birds ended up looking discusting and I was realy consernd about any getting into my shed or amoung my birds.
He stopt coming around to my yard and that was the last of him.
To this day he still has no controle over his birds and it causes me nothing but trouble.
Almost every time I let my kit out can you be sure he will decide to let his out.
I have told him about them been a team,kit and Could he please fly his birds after I do as I am trying to produce a competertive team.
But still he acts the idiot.
I no that I dont rule the skys and dont have any right in teling people when they can and carnt fly there birds but I was just asking this guy if he would work with me and give me some open sky for half hour.
I wake up some mornings hearing cocks chasing hens on my loft and trying to get in.
I have kept my cool for I dont no how long but its game over now.
Any birds that I can trap will be diverted past his house for sure.
Its the biggist mistake I have made during my pigeon courier and I have learnd the hard way.
So please guys before you help anyone out be sure to do some home work first otherwise it may just come back to bite you on the bum like it has me.
I no that I can mumble on some times but thats just me.
Love talking about my and your pigeons.
Keep um rolling guys.
Harrison
H.K.R ROLLER LOFT HULL UK.
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harrison
1216 posts
Aug 24, 2009
1:41 PM
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My now friend who se me up with rollers wouldnt mind me putting this down.
He has a no prisoner policey and I have told him every time I see his breeders out that he his crazy.
He would say I just love to see them fly.
Carnt stand to see them hanging on the front of the wire looking out.
And i agree its somthing I aint much of a fan of either.
BUT when you are talking your STOCK there is a fine line.
I have seen several attacks on his birds but only his young kit.
I said steve you need to lock them stock down as its sooner than later.
He agreed and said he was going to build an avairey on the back of his breeders loft for them and take them out of the kits and lock them down.
well a couple of weeks ago he had a attack on his breeders and lost a mealy cock and self white hen.
VERRY VALUBLE birds to him.
This was the final straw for him and I hope he as stuck to his word and put them in the breeders section out the way.
About 5 days after the attack I was round at his place and said were is the old blue cock.
He was litrely running from kit to kit checking for him.
He had gone.
I would say one of his(TOP 3) PRODUCERS.
farther to my two blue cocks.
He as a son that is as good in the sky but he now as to find out if he can replace its farther in the breeders.
I dont no what goes througth his head when he lets them out but whatever it is I hope it as changed.
So thats my friends biggist mistake (that I no of)
As I have learnd from you guys ( you can-not let feelings and having fave birds ect... get in the way of your aim/goal.
Dont keep a bird bcause he looks great,but carnt roll.
He his tame and flys to you but carnt roll.
You no whats best for you and your birds.
Just dont let it take somthing like it did my friend before you realise it.
Good look guys.
And every mistake is a lesson learnd.
yours harrison
H.K.R ROLLER LOFT HULL UK
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roller alley
177 posts
Aug 24, 2009
11:58 PM
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j star,how true that is,but i am new at being a parent,and just like birds,you learn as you go,my loft has a lock and key now.but just bet that he will get in some how,if he is taking after his dad,ill loose many more..lol...they will all be his someday and he will pay when i tell him what he lost.
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JBow
92 posts
Aug 25, 2009
11:59 AM
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I'm with Cliff Ball. I've made every mistake known to mankind. Sometime when things are going bad for me i think the worst mistake was Buying 12 birds for a quarter apiece from Ralph Bellamy in Compton Calif in 50s. I flew them out and found out what a real roller is supposed to do and have been hooked ever since. Jim Bowen
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3314 posts
Aug 25, 2009
12:43 PM
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That's the name of the game rolleralley
we live and learn sometimes we take our bumps here and there.that's why I brought this post around again so we learn from other ppl mistake..----------
Ralph.
Life comes down to the choices you make, and then living with the results.
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916birds
47 posts
Aug 26, 2009
11:21 AM
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getting birds from someone whom are not members in and or from any clubbs.
the tips and advice from members and this site helped a lot...!
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nicksiders
GOLD MEMBER
3626 posts
Aug 26, 2009
12:09 PM
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I am still making big mistakes. Probably my biggest mistake happened about 9 years ago when I let a salesman talk me in to buying "the absolute best performers". Many were "once in a lifetime birds" What a waste of time and effort. Because of my stuberness not wanting to give up and feeling that the problem of thier crappy performance was all my fault I stuck with them far too long......what a waste.
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Just My Take On Things
Nick Siders
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macsrollers
174 posts
Aug 26, 2009
9:09 PM
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Hard to name all the mistakes. The worst mistake I have made in Rollers is losing my patience with the Doug and Don Ouellette birds by listening to all those who said they aren't competition birds, are too hard to fly, and you can't keep them down. Fortunately for me the foundation of my program still revolves around these families and I have learned that you have to be a master at breeding and flying these birds before you will be rewarded. I was blessed to have been given such quality birds to start with in the first place. Next big mistake was posting a personal email of Cliff Ball's on this site that was forwarded to me by someone else. Very poor judgement on my part and I live with that to this day. Biggerst mistake though was one I made early in my roller career was letting the competition bug bite me bad and let that take precedent over time with my wife and son. Fortunately I remedied that in one season! Family comes first. Respect for others comes second. And then rollers comes third. The best mistakes are the ones you learn life lessons from! Enjoy your next fly! Don M. LVRC
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